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TheGreenMadHatter

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RE:Talk PagesEdit

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DilsDileva - And it's hard to dance, with a devil on your back, so shake him off ♪
TALK - 12:38, August 10, 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad, now I can use this O3O
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DilsDileva - Who cares if we're trash, got our pockets full of cash, we can blow ♪
TALK - 17:06, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
That's great, anything that promotes user activity is a good thing. About the event template, how often should the battles be updated/on which dates?
Only question now is what to do with the poll on the main page x]
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DilsDileva - Too high, can't come down. Losing my head, spinning 'round and 'round ♪
TALK - 17:51, September 5, 2013 (UTC)
Updated :]
Seeing as the core of the wiki is shipping, we might not have much use of another poll for that. I guess we could use it for "favorite X character" or something, idk.

Userboxes Edit

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DilsDileva - To know what to say, mind is a razor blade ♪
TALK - 09:20, September 8, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for just replacing the templates you put up, just thought it'd be nice with the "Links to"-part. Maybe should have asked you first x]

Category icons Edit

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DilsDileva - Though I may look the same to you, underneath there is somebody new ♪
TALK - 13:27, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
I think the links to the categories without text aren't informative enough, and with text they take up way too much space, so I was considering the possibility of having icons represent them instead.


The problem is just that it'd be hard to find that many sprites (or whatever) that go together. Unless you have another solution, because as it is the pages look pretty off :/
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DilsDileva - You can have your dreams, but you can't have me ♪
TALK - 13:58, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Great, less effort for me x]
That's the one I was thinking of. That will just not do.

New background Edit

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DilsDileva - Too high, can't come down. Losing my head, spinning 'round and 'round ♪
TALK - 20:24, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
I really like it, but do you think it'd possible to make it repeat itself without the jag?
Also, nice borders on the main page :]

Sub-galleries Edit

Do you think we should add all the images to them, or just some of the more interesting ones? You know, like a miniature "featured images"? GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 17:55,10/9/2013

Multiple fandoms Edit

I'm not actually 100% of where to place articles that span across multiple sources. E.g. Howard Stark is only seen in Iron Man and Captain America franchises, but not in the globally used Avengers one. Should I place him under the fandoms Iron Man and Captain America, or those two as well as the Avengers one (since that's the name used for the whole movie universe), or skip those and just stick with Avengers? Red Skull is also only seen in Captain America, it does sort of seem wrong to have him marked as an Avengers character.

I don't know anymore ;A; GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 10:59,10/15/2013

Only problem I can see with this is the "tags" on tumblr and the like usually group together the movie series as the "Avengers" franchise, which then might be confusing if you go here to search for Avengers ships only to not find any :|
Other than that I agree.

GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 11:05,10/16/2013

That'd be confusing if we have to do that for every page :| IIRC most templates can already have two fandoms, we could just expand this. (e.g. File:Avengers - Young Avengers - Stony Superboyfriends (Fwips).png)

GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 19:24,10/16/2013

Temp-solution: All images and pages featuring multiple characters from the Marvel universe that appear in the Avengers fandom will be tagged with both "Marvel" and "Avengers". Steve Rogers will therefore have "Marvel" and "Captain America", whilst Stony will be "Marvel" and "Avengers". Sounds good? :]

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DatabasesEdit

Since I'm all for auto-categorizing pages, and making new users have to do as little as possible, I'm thinking of adding template pages to all articles with info (e.g. Template:Steve Rogers). Using this we would have to manually add far less to certain pages, such as the category ones.

What do you think? GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 11:30,10/22/2013

Just noticed fandom pages have templates with the same name. Whatever, we'll have to rename databases (if you agree to them that is) to Template:<name>/Database, or the navigation templates to Template:<fandom> Navigation. Let's just flip a coin.
What I was also thinking of was that as it is we have to manually add the navigation templates to the bottom of the page, but if we were to follow the Marvel wiki's example and make a whole page into a giant template, we could dynamically add the navs to the bottom without the editor having to worry about it.
Though that will sort of make it hard for brand new users to understand what's going on, since all pages will become harder to edit when there's a cluster**** of info all over. So we'll just have to decide what's more important: User friendliness or smart editing?

GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 12:02,10/22/2013

Yeah, that's one of the templates I was thinking of. And while that might be easier for those who understand it, I'm fearing less experienced user won't understand how to work it :I
But (at least I think so) we still need to give each page a template with info as mentioned earlier, since using the main page would be a hassle (users would have to add the info twice to the main page, and it would look ridiculous). Not really sure if I'm being understandable or not, but I think it could help. I've added links to the Sublinks template that lets the user know if the page has a template or not, which will also add the base text to it when clicked :]

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Re:Halloween Theme Edit

Haha, yeah it's great! :D Wonder if there are any Halloween-y characters or ships we could put as featured? :] GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 12:11,10/26/2013

Additional parameters Edit

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DilsDileva - And it's hard to dance, with a devil on your back, so shake him off ♪
TALK - 09:13, November 14, 2013 (UTC)
Wondering what your opinion would be on adding more fields to the character templates, such as eye color, height, relationship status, birthplace/residence, relatives and stuff like that, and whether or not we should add those to the databases or just to the visible pages (ergo we wouldn't be able to make a category for all characters with blue eyes and whatnot).

Added sharing buttons Edit

Just so you know O3O
I think we can customize them somewhat, like whether to have them on the top or bottom of pages, or what color they should be in. Your choice, chief-o.
*grumble* why isn't there a button for tumblr *grumble* GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 15:56,11/22/2013

Term to replace "Fandom"? Edit

So I've been trying to deal with how to properly classify and name the type of category that any given ship or character may belong to, and I've no idea how to proceed. So up until now we've been using the term "Fandom" to categorize pages (e.g. Hermione would of course belong to the Harry Potter fandom) since it's such a broad and general term, but seeing the intros that start with "X is a character from the Y fandom" I only just now realized that "Fandom" is used to describe the fan-following of said topic and that it shouldn't be used like that at all. Which made me wonder if there is another, more appropriate way to describe what Harry Potter is to Hermione, and figured that "Series" seems like a more fitting term in that context. So I changed and updated some pages and templates to be based around that instead, only to come to a halt yet again when I debated if that would cover articles relating to instances of media with only one game/movie/book (that is, not considered a series), or for pages about things that aren't media franchises at all. An example would be the ship between musicians Jay-Z and Beyoncé. It would make more sense to create a Beyoncé fandom page, but the Beyoncé article can't be placed in her own fandom but would rather be related to the topic that is Beyoncé.

I have no idea how to proceed, and I can't really contribute to the wiki when I know that whatever I add I might have to revert later on. If we do end up changing the term, I've pondered some alternatives:

  • Series (Probably shouldn't be used on things that aren't media series)
  • Franchise (Same as Series)
  • Topic
  • Domain
  • Subject
  • Term
  • Field
  • Scope

So. Sorry for the rant. I'm going crazy. GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 21:18,1/31/2014

EDIT: Ooooor we could just reword the intro and redesign the template somewhat. I don't know, it just seems weird to have Hermione belong to the fan-movement of the Harry Potter series when she in fact belongs to the franchise, and it feels off writing factual things about the series when the title clearly says "Fandom". I just don't know.

Second apologies. GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 21:54,1/31/2014

Putting musicians under "Music" could work, actually. The problem still though that we can't have two names for whatever the "topic" is being called (this because of how the templates are coded), so "Music" would either be a "Fandom" or a "Series", the problem is which? :/ Maybe just keeping the name "Fandom" on templates is the way to go right now, I don't even know anymore.

Hey, that's pretty dope! But if they're going to highlight our wiki it feels like we have some cleaning up to do ^ ^ GoldEggCenturion.png DilsDileva 14:51,2/19/2014

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